The Typecast
Welcome to The Typecast, a podcast hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype. Listen as we geek out over anchor points, our favorite typefaces, and how to grow an art business. For more of this duo, follow us on Instagram @goodtype.
SAYING WORDS ABOUT DRAWING WORDS
Weβre two self-employed lettering artists who met by sliding into each otherβs DMβs.
Nowβ¦weβre sliding into your headphones.
About
Dear hand letterers, designers, and artists of all sortsβdespite what your grandma thinks, we know thereβs a whole lot more to what you do than just βdrawing pretty pictures.β This podcast, hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype, is about what it *really* means to be a working creative. From finding clients to pricing your work and nerding the heck out about kerning, weβre covering everything that goes into building a successful and sustainable business around your passion.
And weβre not just doing it alone! Weβll be tapping some of your current (and soon-to-be) favorite artists for inspiration, insight, and laughs. Weβre big on giving takeaways that you can actually put into action, and weβre even bigger on having a good time while we do it. Tune into the Typecast twice a month for a tittle-ating time (yep, weβre gonna type-pun your face off), and donβt forget to subscribe and leave a review so we can show our moms how famous we are!
Want to be on an episode of The Typecast?
Weβre always looking for guests who want to help our audience of artists grow their creative careers (while sharing a few laughs, of course). Submit yourself, a friend, or a topic you want us to cover on an upcoming episode!
Want to get your brand in front of our listeners?
Weβre focused on creating long-term partnerships that go beyond a quick feature during an ad break. Weβre looking for brands that will stick with us, form deep relationships with our community, and help our artists take real, actionable steps towards their goals.
Because our partnership philosophy is different, our sponsor opportunities look different as well, including touch-points across all of Goodtypeβs content. Interested in talking about what a partnership with us could look like? Weβd love to chat.
Tune into the latest episodesβ¦
What If I Started Saying No to My Clients and Yes to Myself: With Radim Malinic | The Typecast Episode 48
In this episode, Katie and Ilana talk with Radim Malinic, a creative powerhouse whose journey spans graphic design, music, branding, publishing and building a business that celebrates visual storytelling.
What If I Made Joy My Biggest Priority in My Art Business: With Kate Smith | The Typecast Episode 47
In this episode, we sit down with Kate Smith, an artist and author whoβs proof that you can build a thriving creative business without selling your soul.
What If We Went All In On Making Art In 2025: Reflections and Plans with Katie & Ilana | The Typecast Episode 44
In this episode, weβre hitting pause to reflect on the highlights, the hiccups, and how weβve grown as creatives and entrepreneurs. Weβre sharing the moments that made us feel on top of the world, the challenges that tested our limits, and the lessons weβve learned about chasing creative fulfillment (and why itβs so important).
Type Talk, Dream Work, and Studio Shenanigans with Hoodzpah Design | The Typecast Episode 43
In this episode, we chat with Amy and Jen of Hoodzpah Design about dream jobs, type design, running a small studio, and pretty much everything in between.
The Evolution of a Design Career with Lettering Artist and Illustrator Jamie Clarke | The Typecast Episode 42
In this episode, we sit down with Jamie Clarke, a designer who's worn all the hatsβfrom web design to founding his own type foundry.
Rethinking Marketing & Pricing Strategies for Fonts with Harbor Bickmore | The Typecast Episode 41
In this episode, Katie and Ilana catch up with graphic designer and type aficionado Harbor Bickmore, as he takes us through his journey from design student to thriving type designer.
Creative Exploration and Mental Health Advocacy Through Art with Annica Lydenberg | The Typecast Episode 40
In this episode, Katie and Ilana sit down with Annica Lydenberg, aka Dirty Bandits and explore her creative journey through lettering, sign painting, and mural art. Annica also shares about her co-founded non-profit, the deeply personal βYou Are Not Aloneβ Mural Project.
Showing up Authentically and Navigating Social Media as an Artist with Andy J Pizza | The Typecast Episode 39
In this episode, we dive deep into the creative mind of Andy J. Pizzaβauthor, illustrator, and podcasterβwho shares his journey of staying true to himself in a world where commercial pressures often feel at odds with personal expression.
How to Monetize Your Creative Passion Without Dying Inside with Lauren Hom | The Typecast Episode 37
In this episode, Ilana and Katie chat with Lauren Hom, a celebrated freelance artist renowned for her distinctive lettering style and entrepreneurial prowess. Lauren is known for combining her passion for lettering with culinary arts, creating a unique recipe of creativity and business.
Weβre Making Changes: What to Do When You Get the Sunday Scaries & Youβre Self-Employed | The Typecast Episode 36
In this episode, Ilana and Katie get real about the tricky balance between productivity, creativity, and finding joy in their work and life. They discuss how societyβs focus on accomplishment can lead to burnout, and how theyβre working to navigate this.
Running a Lettering and Design Business with an Agent While Working a Full-Time Job with Cymone Wilder | The Typecast Episode 35
In this episode, Ilana and Katie dive into the world of Cymone Wilder, a lettering artist and designer. Cymone shares how working with an agent has positively impacted her career and what that relationship looks like.
Branding and Client Relationships with Scott Fuller | The Typecast Episode 33
In this episode, Ilana and Katie sit down with Scott Fuller, the designer, illustrator, and founder of The Studio Temporary β specializing in crafting compelling brand identities, illustrations, logos, type designs, packaging, and more. Scott discusses the significance of focusing on the end goal and creating timeless, and memorable work.
A Deep Dive into Multiple Income Streams for Freelance Artists with Jessica Hische | The Typecast Episode 32
In this episode, Ilana and Katie delve into the world of diversifying income streams in the creative industry with Jessica Hische, everyoneβs favorite OG lettering artist. They discuss the importance of financial stability and how incorporating various revenue streams can contribute to a more robust creative career.
Finding Your Creative Community in the Design World with Dan Polyak | The Typecast Episode 30
In this episode, Katie, Ilana, and Dan had an animated discussion, explored the idea of introducing oneself with dislikes, dove into the Chicago pizza scene, and shared stories of how MTV and Nickelodeon shaped their creative journeys.
Designing for The Music Industry with Dan & Nate from DKNG | The Typecast Episode 29
In this episode, Ilana and Katie dive into the journey of graphic design and illustration with the creative minds behind DKNG Studios, Dan Kuhlken and Nathan Goldman. They cover a wide array of topics, from the importance of creative freedom and the challenges of licensing to the benefits of business diversification.
How to Stay Playful and Authentic in Your Design Business with Freddie Γst | The Typecast Episode 28
In this episode, Ilana, Katie, and Freddie discuss the journey of being a multi-passionate creative and building a design business. They talk about the value of incorporating play and fun into your work. They also discuss the importance of standing up for your ideas even if it means some people won't like you. They highlight writing books, dealing with criticism, building teams, and having a growth mindset as key elements of a creative journey.
Flip The Script: Liz Mosley Takes Over The Typecast and Interviews Us | The Typecast Episode 27
In this episode, Liz Mosley takes on the role of host and interviews Katie and Ilana. Despite living in different parts of the US, they share how they came to collaborate at Goodtype, discussing their journey into leadership roles and the team structure they've developed.
Should Artists Work for Free with Lennon Bone | The Typecast Episode 26
In this episode, Ilana and Katie talk with Creative Strategist, Lennon Bone from Stop the Starving Artist. They discuss a range of topics related to creativity, music, production, and selling your work. They explore the dynamics of collaboration among musicians, transitioning from unpaid work to paid projects, and the significance of storytelling in artistic expression.