The Typecast

Welcome to The Typecast, a podcast hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype. Listen as we geek out over anchor points, our favorite typefaces, and how to grow an art business. For more of this duo, follow us on Instagram @goodtype.

SAYING WORDS ABOUT DRAWING WORDS

We’re two self-employed lettering artists who met by sliding into each other’s DM’s.

Now…we’re sliding into your headphones.

About


Dear hand letterers, designers, and artists of all sorts—despite what your grandma thinks, we know there’s a whole lot more to what you do than just “drawing pretty pictures.” This podcast, hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype, is about what it *really* means to be a working creative. From finding clients to pricing your work and nerding the heck out about kerning, we’re covering everything that goes into building a successful and sustainable business around your passion.


And we’re not just doing it alone! We’ll be tapping some of your current (and soon-to-be) favorite artists for inspiration, insight, and laughs. We’re big on giving takeaways that you can actually put into action, and we’re even bigger on having a good time while we do it. Tune into the Typecast twice a month for a tittle-ating time (yep, we’re gonna type-pun your face off), and don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review so we can show our moms how famous we are!

Want to be on an episode of The Typecast?

We’re always looking for guests who want to help our audience of artists grow their creative careers (while sharing a few laughs, of course). Submit yourself, a friend, or a topic you want us to cover on an upcoming episode!

Want to get your brand in front of our listeners?

We’re focused on creating long-term partnerships that go beyond a quick feature during an ad break. We’re looking for brands that will stick with us, form deep relationships with our community, and help our artists take real, actionable steps towards their goals.

Because our partnership philosophy is different, our sponsor opportunities look different as well, including touch-points across all of Goodtype’s content. Interested in talking about what a partnership with us could look like? We’d love to chat.

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Money, Murals, and Work-Life Balance for Artists with Phoebe Nelson of Pandr Design Co. | The Typecast Episode 17

In this episode, Katie and Ilana sit down with Phoebe Cornog, the owner of Pandr Design Co. Pandr is a design studio that specializes in creating custom murals for businesses around the globe. Phoebe is best known for her vivid murals and distinctive letterforms as well as her transparency around sharing business and pricing tips with other artists in the industry.

In this episode, Katie and Ilana sit down with Phoebe Cornog, the owner of Pandr Design Co. Pandr is a design studio that specializes in creating custom murals for businesses around the globe. Phoebe is best known for her vivid murals and distinctive letterforms as well as her transparency around sharing business and pricing tips with other artists in the industry.

In this episode, Phoebe shares her insights on setting prices for murals, navigating the complexities of managing money, and understanding the importance of insurance for artists. The conversation also explores achieving balance between ambition and avoiding burnout, celebrating accomplishments, and the value of financial planning for artists. Phoebe's positive energy and healthy headspace are a real breath of fresh air!

Here's what you’ll find in this episode:

  • How Phoebe priced her artwork in early years and advice for newcomers  — starting small without underpricing

  • Influential factors for mural pricing such as wall texture, client, and complexity

  • The importance of insurance and liabilities for muralists

  • Balancing ambition and burnout

  • Celebrating wins while reaching for more

  • Dealing with imposter syndrome and self-doubt

  • The role of strategic financial planning in achieving business success

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Connect with our guest:

Instagram: Phoebe (Cornog) Nelson

TikTok: Phoebe (Cornog) Nelson 

Pandr Design Co.

Instagram: Graphic Design & Murals

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Art Licensing: Our Favorite Secret Income Stream for Artists & Designers | The Typecast Episode 9

In this episode, Katie and Ilana discuss art licensing and how artists can license their work for products like greeting cards, apparel, and home goods. They talk about how licensing differs from freelancing, how royalties work, tips for building a licensing portfolio, and the pros and cons of working with an art licensing agent.

In this episode, Katie and Ilana discuss art licensing and how artists can license their work for products like greeting cards, apparel, and home goods. They talk about how licensing differs from freelancing, how royalties work, tips for building a licensing portfolio, and the pros and cons of working with an art licensing agent. 

While licensing can be a lucrative income stream, it requires patience and persistence as the process from creating artwork to seeing it on products takes a long time. They demystify the licensing industry and help more artists tap into this powerful (and potentially passive) income stream.

Here's what you'll discover in this episode:

  • What licensing means, and how you can get paid to rent or sell a license to your work

  • What it means to be paid in royalties, and how to weigh the risk and reward.

  • How having an art licensing agent can help manage contracts and outreach — helping artists land or manage their opportunities

  • Thinking about the context and products where the artwork could fit well, like greeting cards, fabrics, home goods, etc. — considering scale, colors, and themes

  • How trend shopping and looking at what's already selling can help in identifying themes and prompts to create new artwork for licensing (and putting your own spin on them!)

  • The importance of contracts and licensing terms to understand the scope of how clients can use the artwork

  • Why licensing requires a ton of patience (it’s a slow game!) and why it’s worth it for artists

Mentioned in the episode:

Astropad

Free Training: Three steps to turn your art into Passive Income with Art Licensing

Connect with Katie & Ilana from Goodtype

Love The Typecast and free stuff? Leave a review, and send a screenshot of it to us on Slack. Each month we pick a random reviewer to win a Goodtype Goodie! Goodies include merch, courses and Kernference tickets!

Grab your tea, coffee, or drink of choice, kick back, and let's get down to business!

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