The Typecast
Welcome to The Typecast, a podcast hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype. Listen as we geek out over anchor points, our favorite typefaces, and how to grow an art business. For more of this duo, follow us on Instagram @goodtype.
SAYING WORDS ABOUT DRAWING WORDS
Weβre two self-employed lettering artists who met by sliding into each otherβs DMβs.
Nowβ¦weβre sliding into your headphones.
About
Dear hand letterers, designers, and artists of all sortsβdespite what your grandma thinks, we know thereβs a whole lot more to what you do than just βdrawing pretty pictures.β This podcast, hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype, is about what it *really* means to be a working creative. From finding clients to pricing your work and nerding the heck out about kerning, weβre covering everything that goes into building a successful and sustainable business around your passion.
And weβre not just doing it alone! Weβll be tapping some of your current (and soon-to-be) favorite artists for inspiration, insight, and laughs. Weβre big on giving takeaways that you can actually put into action, and weβre even bigger on having a good time while we do it. Tune into the Typecast twice a month for a tittle-ating time (yep, weβre gonna type-pun your face off), and donβt forget to subscribe and leave a review so we can show our moms how famous we are!
Want to be on an episode of The Typecast?
Weβre always looking for guests who want to help our audience of artists grow their creative careers (while sharing a few laughs, of course). Submit yourself, a friend, or a topic you want us to cover on an upcoming episode!
Want to get your brand in front of our listeners?
Weβre focused on creating long-term partnerships that go beyond a quick feature during an ad break. Weβre looking for brands that will stick with us, form deep relationships with our community, and help our artists take real, actionable steps towards their goals.
Because our partnership philosophy is different, our sponsor opportunities look different as well, including touch-points across all of Goodtypeβs content. Interested in talking about what a partnership with us could look like? Weβd love to chat.
Tune into the latest episodesβ¦
What if We Ran an Instagram Account with 1 Million Followers: with Emily Lynn Caulfield | The Typecast Episode 53
What actually goes on behind the scenes of a 1-million-follower art account? In this episode, weβre pulling back the curtain on what itβs like for us to manage one of the biggest creative communities on Instagram. Joining us this episode is our teammate Emily (who wears many hats, from social media management to content strategist and Notion organization wizard). Weβre digging into the strategy, challenges, and surprises that come with running an account of this size.
What if We Shared Openly About Mental Health: with Katie & Ilana | The Typecast Episode 52
Weβre getting real in this episode, talking openly about what it means to be a creative with mental health struggles, from panic attacks and perfectionism to ADHD and burnout. Whether youβve felt overwhelmed by your to-do list, stuck chasing an impossible standard, or just totally unmotivated and scattered, youβre not alone. And youβre not broken.
What if I Rejected Viral Content Formulas: With Will Patterson | The Typecast Episode 51
In this episode of The Typecast, hosts Katie and Ilana sit down with designer and longtime YouTube creator Will Paterson to explore what it really takes to build a sustainable creative career in todayβs ever-evolving digital world.
What If We Posted on Instagram Every Day for a Month: with Katie & Ilana | The Typecast Episode 50
What happens when two artists post on Instagram every weekday for an entire month? Spoiler: No viral fame, but they did book a DREAM client. ππ»
In this episode, Katie and Ilana dive into their recent social media experimentβsharing what it was really like to show up online five days a week for 30 days straight.
What If I Worked Less and Had More Fun: How Art Licensing Can Change Your Life with Krissy Mast | The Typecast Episode 49
The past few years have been a rollercoaster of hard lessons learned, creativity, and pivots. In this episode, weβre peeling back the curtain with Krissy Mast, sharing her struggles with creative burnout after building a 7-figure design business and how she redefined success by deciding to close the doors and start fresh. From the projects that lit her up to the ones that drained her, Krissy gets REAL about what it means to build a sustainable creative business (again).
What If I Started Saying No to My Clients and Yes to Myself: With Radim Malinic | The Typecast Episode 48
In this episode, Katie and Ilana talk with Radim Malinic, a creative powerhouse whose journey spans graphic design, music, branding, publishing and building a business that celebrates visual storytelling.
What If I Made Joy My Biggest Priority in My Art Business: With Kate Smith | The Typecast Episode 47
In this episode, we sit down with Kate Smith, an artist and author whoβs proof that you can build a thriving creative business without selling your soul.
What If I Diversified My Income By Wholesaling My Art in Retail Stores: With Katie Hunt | The Typecast Episode 46
The idea of having your art sold in retail stores across the country sounds like a dream, right? Big and small retailers carrying your work, more exposure, and (hopefully) more income. But what does it actually take to sell your art wholesaleβand is it the right path for you?
What If I Tried to Make $100k/Year as an Artist in 2025 | The Typecast Episode 45
Can two artists build a $100K art business in one year? In this episode, Katie and Ilana share their unfiltered journey as they create and conquer bold experiments to combine their love for art and education into a thriving creative business.
What If We Went All In On Making Art In 2025: Reflections and Plans with Katie & Ilana | The Typecast Episode 44
In this episode, weβre hitting pause to reflect on the highlights, the hiccups, and how weβve grown as creatives and entrepreneurs. Weβre sharing the moments that made us feel on top of the world, the challenges that tested our limits, and the lessons weβve learned about chasing creative fulfillment (and why itβs so important).
Type Talk, Dream Work, and Studio Shenanigans with Hoodzpah Design | The Typecast Episode 43
In this episode, we chat with Amy and Jen of Hoodzpah Design about dream jobs, type design, running a small studio, and pretty much everything in between.
The Evolution of a Design Career with Lettering Artist and Illustrator Jamie Clarke | The Typecast Episode 42
In this episode, we sit down with Jamie Clarke, a designer who's worn all the hatsβfrom web design to founding his own type foundry.
Rethinking Marketing & Pricing Strategies for Fonts with Harbor Bickmore | The Typecast Episode 41
In this episode, Katie and Ilana catch up with graphic designer and type aficionado Harbor Bickmore, as he takes us through his journey from design student to thriving type designer.
Creative Exploration and Mental Health Advocacy Through Art with Annica Lydenberg | The Typecast Episode 40
In this episode, Katie and Ilana sit down with Annica Lydenberg, aka Dirty Bandits and explore her creative journey through lettering, sign painting, and mural art. Annica also shares about her co-founded non-profit, the deeply personal βYou Are Not Aloneβ Mural Project.
Showing up Authentically and Navigating Social Media as an Artist with Andy J Pizza | The Typecast Episode 39
In this episode, we dive deep into the creative mind of Andy J. Pizzaβauthor, illustrator, and podcasterβwho shares his journey of staying true to himself in a world where commercial pressures often feel at odds with personal expression.
Create and License Fonts with Self-Taught Type Designer Matthijs Herzberg | The Typecast Episode 38
In this episode, Katie and Ilana chat with the artist behind their podcast art, Matthijs Herzberg. Matthijs is a self taught type designer and artist in New Orleans. This conversation dives into the world of type design, and a little Mardi Gras. The discussion also covers valuable learning resources, some truths about time management, and balancing client work with personal projects.
How to Monetize Your Creative Passion Without Dying Inside with Lauren Hom | The Typecast Episode 37
In this episode, Ilana and Katie chat with Lauren Hom, a celebrated freelance artist renowned for her distinctive lettering style and entrepreneurial prowess. Lauren is known for combining her passion for lettering with culinary arts, creating a unique recipe of creativity and business.
Weβre Making Changes: What to Do When You Get the Sunday Scaries & Youβre Self-Employed | The Typecast Episode 36
In this episode, Ilana and Katie get real about the tricky balance between productivity, creativity, and finding joy in their work and life. They discuss how societyβs focus on accomplishment can lead to burnout, and how theyβre working to navigate this.
Running a Lettering and Design Business with an Agent While Working a Full-Time Job with Cymone Wilder | The Typecast Episode 35
In this episode, Ilana and Katie dive into the world of Cymone Wilder, a lettering artist and designer. Cymone shares how working with an agent has positively impacted her career and what that relationship looks like.
How To Become A Book Cover Designer with Art Director Casey Moses | The Typecast Episode 34
In this episode, Ilana and Katie dive into the creative world of book cover design with Art Director, Casey Moses. Casey shares her journey into the field of books and insight into her job as an Art Director at a major publishing house. They explore how book covers influence reader choices, and discuss their favorite genres.