The Typecast
Welcome to The Typecast, a podcast hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype. Listen as we geek out over anchor points, our favorite typefaces, and how to grow an art business. For more of this duo, follow us on Instagram @goodtype.
SAYING WORDS ABOUT DRAWING WORDS
Weβre two self-employed lettering artists who met by sliding into each otherβs DMβs.
Nowβ¦weβre sliding into your headphones.
About
Dear hand letterers, designers, and artists of all sortsβdespite what your grandma thinks, we know thereβs a whole lot more to what you do than just βdrawing pretty pictures.β This podcast, hosted by Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo of Goodtype, is about what it *really* means to be a working creative. From finding clients to pricing your work and nerding the heck out about kerning, weβre covering everything that goes into building a successful and sustainable business around your passion.
And weβre not just doing it alone! Weβll be tapping some of your current (and soon-to-be) favorite artists for inspiration, insight, and laughs. Weβre big on giving takeaways that you can actually put into action, and weβre even bigger on having a good time while we do it. Tune into the Typecast twice a month for a tittle-ating time (yep, weβre gonna type-pun your face off), and donβt forget to subscribe and leave a review so we can show our moms how famous we are!
Want to be on an episode of The Typecast?
Weβre always looking for guests who want to help our audience of artists grow their creative careers (while sharing a few laughs, of course). Submit yourself, a friend, or a topic you want us to cover on an upcoming episode!
Want to get your brand in front of our listeners?
Weβre focused on creating long-term partnerships that go beyond a quick feature during an ad break. Weβre looking for brands that will stick with us, form deep relationships with our community, and help our artists take real, actionable steps towards their goals.
Because our partnership philosophy is different, our sponsor opportunities look different as well, including touch-points across all of Goodtypeβs content. Interested in talking about what a partnership with us could look like? Weβd love to chat.
Tune into the latest episodesβ¦
What If Your Side Hustle Paid Your Mortgage?
What does it actually look like to run a thriving creative business? One with branding projects, murals, fonts, and a coffee company in the mix?! In this episode, weβre joined by the endlessly curious and wildly productive Adam Vicarel, who is proof that creative experimentation paired with smart systems can take you a long way.
Whether youβre figuring out how to balance creative freedom with financial stability, trying to find the headspace for things that arenβt immediately due, or just wondering if LinkedIn is worth your time, this oneβs for you.
What If You Built a Design Studio With No Rules? with Lope GutiΓ©rrez-Ruiz | The Typecast Episode 67
What happens when a journalist from Venezuela becomes a self-taught designer, typeface foundry founder, and curator of one of the most ambitious graphic design exhibitions in recent memory? You get Lope GutiΓ©rrez-Ruiz, and our conversation with him does not disappoint.
Lope is a partner and project lead at In-House International, a design studio and typeface foundry. Heβs also a TED Fellow, a Knight Fellow at Stanford, and the curator behind One Hundred Points.
In this episode, we dig into what it actually looks like to build a creative practice rooted in curiosity and systemsβnot just style. Lope shares his take on design rules (and whether you should bother learning them) and how his journalism background still shapes every creative decision he makes. We also get into the realities of working with nonprofits, font piracy, and how he pulled off a massive exhibition without taking a sabbatical.
What If You Niched Out Instead of Down? | The Typecast Episode 66
βFinding your styleβ is the number one question we get asked, and the one weβve asked ourselves for years. In this episode, weβre diving into the real question behind it: what if itβs not about finding a single aestheticβ¦ but about uncovering your creative identity?
Weβre celebrating the announcement of our new book, Follow Your Art, and sharing why we wrote it, what youβll find inside, and how the entire process changed the way we think about style, niching, and creative confidence. We talk about why committing to one aesthetic can feel like a cage, why effortless ideas are often your most authentic ones, and how your βsecret sauceβ is built from everything.
We also unpack our take on βniching out, not down,β how to write an artist statement that actually feels like you, and how to market your work without feeling gross.
What If Making Videos Helped You Make Better Art? with Chris Piascik | The Typecast Episode 64
In this episode, weβre joined by illustrator, letterer, and YouTuber Chris Piascik for a wide-ranging conversation about building a creative career without a grid master plan and why showing up consistently can change everything.
Chris shares how a daily challenge that started as a way to reconnect with drawing quietly became the foundation of his entire career. We talk about what it means to play the long game as a creative, how personal work can naturally lead to apid opportunities, and why focusing on making matters more than chasing the perfect strategy.
What If Freelancing Didnβt Mean Doing Everything Alone? with Joshua Jevons | The Typecast Episode 63
In this episode, we sit down with designer Josh Jevons to discuss what it actually looks like to build a sustainable creative career without burning out, cold-pitching nonstop, or doing everything yourself. We also get into real-world outreach strategies, including walking trade shows, pitching without being salesy, and why face-to-face connections still matter. Along the way, we talk packaging, brand strategy, work-life balance, and designing systems that allow you to grow without burning out.
What If Building a Design Studio Was Actually Supposed to Be Fun? with Brethren Design Co. | The Typecast Episode 62
What happens when two brothers decide to stop overthinking it and build a design studio around the kind of work they actually want to make?
In this episode, weβre joined by Jordan and Jeremy Coon of Brethren Design Co., a two-person studio built on trust, contrast, and a shared love of making things that are fun, expressive, and a little chaotic (in the best way). We discuss what itβs really like to work with family, how they naturally fell into different roles, and why embracing each otherβs strengths has been key to their success.
What if Small Businesses Led the AI Revolution? with Rebecca Shostak of Flodesk | The Typecast Episode 60
In this episode, weβre joined by a very special guest, Rebecca Shostak, co-founder of Flodesk and lifelong designer-turned-entrepreneur. This conversation is packed with insights into how creativity, design thinking, and intentional decision-making can shape not just a project but an entire company. We also go deep into AI, the fears, the opportunities, and what it looks like to use it as a tool that supports creativity rather than replaces it.
What If Taking On One Project Could Change Your Whole Career with Amber Asay | The Typecast Episode 58
What does it look like running your own design studio that works with names like Rosie Huntington-Whiteley and Kourtney Kardashian? In this episode, we sit down with Amber Asay of Nice People to discuss the winding path that led her from scrapbooking experiments and show choirs to launching a successful design agency and a creative podcast.
What If We Shared Our Art on LinkedIn for 30 Days: with Katie & Ilana | The Typecast Episode 56
If LinkedIn isnβt the first place you think of when it comes to growing your creative business... youβre not alone. But in this episode, weβre sharing the surprising results of our 30-day experiment, where we posted on LinkedIn every weekday, and what we learned that blew us away.
From Passion Projects to Paid Client Gigs: A Real Look at Growing an Art Career with Muralist Lisa Quine | The Typecast Episode 55
Weβre joined by the wonderfully optimistic and multi-talented hand lettering artist & muralist, Lisa Quine, someone who has done everything from lettering murals for pro sports teams to designing custom hairbrushes for celebrities (Fergie included). We talk about her unique creative journey, how optimism fuels her freelance career, and how her Cleveland roots helped shape a dream path she never couldβve planned.
What if We Ran an Instagram Account with 1 Million Followers: with Emily Lynn Caulfield | The Typecast Episode 53
What actually goes on behind the scenes of a 1-million-follower art account? In this episode, weβre pulling back the curtain on what itβs like for us to manage one of the biggest creative communities on Instagram. Joining us this episode is our teammate Emily (who wears many hats, from social media management to content strategist and Notion organization wizard). Weβre digging into the strategy, challenges, and surprises that come with running an account of this size.
What if We Shared Openly About Mental Health: with Katie & Ilana | The Typecast Episode 52
Weβre getting real in this episode, talking openly about what it means to be a creative with mental health struggles, from panic attacks and perfectionism to ADHD and burnout. Whether youβve felt overwhelmed by your to-do list, stuck chasing an impossible standard, or just totally unmotivated and scattered, youβre not alone. And youβre not broken.
What If I Worked Less and Had More Fun: How Art Licensing Can Change Your Life with Krissy Mast | The Typecast Episode 49
The past few years have been a rollercoaster of hard lessons learned, creativity, and pivots. In this episode, weβre peeling back the curtain with Krissy Mast, sharing her struggles with creative burnout after building a 7-figure design business and how she redefined success by deciding to close the doors and start fresh. From the projects that lit her up to the ones that drained her, Krissy gets REAL about what it means to build a sustainable creative business (again).
What If I Started Saying No to My Clients and Yes to Myself: With Radim Malinic | The Typecast Episode 48
In this episode, Katie and Ilana talk with Radim Malinic, a creative powerhouse whose journey spans graphic design, music, branding, publishing and building a business that celebrates visual storytelling.
What If I Made Joy My Biggest Priority in My Art Business: With Kate Smith | The Typecast Episode 47
In this episode, we sit down with Kate Smith, an artist and author whoβs proof that you can build a thriving creative business without selling your soul.
What If I Tried to Make $100k/Year as an Artist in 2025 | The Typecast Episode 45
Can two artists build a $100K art business in one year? In this episode, Katie and Ilana share their unfiltered journey as they create and conquer bold experiments to combine their love for art and education into a thriving creative business.
What If We Went All In On Making Art In 2025: Reflections and Plans with Katie & Ilana | The Typecast Episode 44
In this episode, weβre hitting pause to reflect on the highlights, the hiccups, and how weβve grown as creatives and entrepreneurs. Weβre sharing the moments that made us feel on top of the world, the challenges that tested our limits, and the lessons weβve learned about chasing creative fulfillment (and why itβs so important).
Type Talk, Dream Work, and Studio Shenanigans with Hoodzpah Design | The Typecast Episode 43
In this episode, we chat with Amy and Jen of Hoodzpah Design about dream jobs, type design, running a small studio, and pretty much everything in between.
The Evolution of a Design Career with Lettering Artist and Illustrator Jamie Clarke | The Typecast Episode 42
In this episode, we sit down with Jamie Clarke, a designer who's worn all the hatsβfrom web design to founding his own type foundry.